Can someone tell me how it makes sense for Rowan Williams to on the one hand endorse Anglicans moving to Rome which does not ordain women or homosexuals, while on the other hand allowing these same errors in his own church? I guess praying to Saints and bowing to images is fine to him, it’s just the man sleeping with man thing that Rome needs to catch up on.
In Bishop N.T. Wright’s world Lambeth seems to have been a smashing success:
We are insisting that the Lambeth process was a good process and we do not want it to be damaged.
People can make political capital out of anything. Lambeth was a great achievement and we must build on that.
Let’s contrast this ‘great achievement’ that has put off doing anything about abominations and heresies with true Apostolic leadership. A certain Apostle named Paul of Tarsus heard of sin on the part of another Apostle named Peter or Cephas. Paul did not study the issue and refer it to the patriarch of Jerusalem for discernment. He did not write the Antioch Report and dither. He did not wring his hands about the unity of the Church being impaired. He did not enter a listening process with the Judaizers to find out where they were coming from. No, Paul says:
But when Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned. For before certain men came from James, he was eating with the Gentiles; but when they came he drew back and separated himself, fearing the circumcision party.
Ah, that Paul, such a fundamentalist! How brash and self-assured he was, as if he alone knew the truth. Why, perhaps the Holy Spirit was simply leading Peter and the Judaizers in a different direction, who are we to say?
Lambeth was rubbish, the See of Canterbury is presently rubbish, and the inability to discipline anyone for anything is the problem. We need to bring back that unfashionable word: excommunication. Asking people to think about and listen to the other side is not church discipline, it is a tactic of anti-church heretics who think that they can buy enough time for society to force the ignorant rubes opposed to them to bend the knee to them. We need Paul, not Rowan or N.T.
Two Bishops, two very different ways of approaching the world. In this article Wright spends thousands of words essentially saying that the Bible is complex, we can’t go back to modernity, truth is hard to get at and both sides are probably wrong. Then in this interview, Wright can’t deign to answer yes to a question that I would think could be answered simply:
CT: Do you agree with the content of the Sudanese statement?
TW: What they have done in their statement is simply reaffirm what the Anglican Communion has always taught and what the historic churches in Christendom have always taught. It is sad that these things need to be reaffirmed – clearly they do. So for millions of Christians around the world all that they have said is ‘we are still believing what we have always believed’. So it’s not exceptional.
In every case, homosexual practice is considered sinful – something that breaks our relationship with God and harms our wellbeing. It is something for which one should repent and seek forgiveness and healing, which God is ever ready to do. Not only is Scripture to be taken seriously, but it is to be obeyed, because God intends for us things far better than we could ask or imagine.How can we go to Holy Communion, sit in Bible study groups, and share meals together, pretending that everything is OK?, that we are still in fellowship with the persistent violators of biblical teaching and of Lambeth resolutions?The Bible says: “Can two walk together unless they are agreed?” The Archbishop of Canterbury has asked us to “wait for each other”. But how is it possible when we are not travelling in the same direction?
Is any of what is happening at Lambeth surprising to anyone? The only surprise coming out of Lambeth would be decisive action, say excommunicating American Bishops or affirming orthodox teaching on every subject.
I’m glad the forces of GAFCON stayed away. They were correct in thinking that the entire meeting is a waste of time.
The response issued by GAFCON today is heartening. It is like clear music rising against discordant and deceptive “emissions” from Lambeth. Thank you Lord for the leaders of GAFCON.
Is there anything more touchy-feely liberal than a bunch of groups “listening” to each other at Lambeth? Suppose this was the Arian crisis and the church of that day had just stopped to listen to each other rather than being nasty and mean with those troublesome doctrines. What would the results have been? Certainly we don’t have to fight over everything, but when the church cannot fight over basic principles, it has become the anti-church.